On May 2nd, I attended a presentation on the
upcoming Scottish Referendum at Queens University Belfast. It was delivered by
Dr Michael Rosie of University
of Edinburgh.
[Dr Rosie is Senior Lecturer in Sociology at the University of Edinburgh
and Director of the University’s Institute of Governance. Dr Rosie specialises
in studying the political sociology of Scotland. The event was facilitated by Professor John
Brewer of the Institute for the Study of Conflict Transformation and Social
Justice at Queens].
Dr Rosie is a man
well-versed on the subject matter of anything Scottish. His presentation was
delivered with great ease, comprehensive and quite entertaining. No
pretentions with this academic: excellent lunchtime entertainment.
I didn’t really learn an awful lot as I have been following
the referendum debate but there certainly were a lot of issues confirmed with
much meat added to the bones. In a nut shell the situation is that the polls still give the NO voters a slight edge and there are complex reasons as to why the
Scots are taking their various stances. What was not clarified for me were
issues relating to the following: membership of the EU, membership of the British Commonwealth, currency, defence, and fees for
students.
Dr Rosie straight away denounced the extremist elements in
the debate in Scotland
and presented an image of mature civilised debate among the majority of Scots.
It would of course be virtually impossible for an academic Scot not to have a
personal opinion and while he did his best to present both sides of the
argument he was clearly a YES supporter.
You couldn’t help get the feeling that the desire for independence was
primarily for the enlightened progressives and those against were from the old
school.
Reasons for
variations in findings of opinion polls were attributed very much to age: Dr
Rosie suggesting that the NO voters
were older and the younger folk were opting for the big political change. While
this may well be somewhat accurate I think this generalisation is an over
simplification. He also used this assessment to reinforce his contention that
while there may well be a small victory for the NO side it will be short lived as the older pro-British NO voters will soon die off to be
replaced by the young progressive independence seekers (not his words but my
interpretation of his words).The flaw in this theory is that the young also get
older and wiser.
The conclusion to Dr Rosie’s presentation was the most
interesting for me. I agree with his analysis that this debate is simply going
to intensify after September 18th: that a great opportunity has been
missed to consider more radical changes for the good of all in the United Kingdom.
However he seemed to put the blame for this solely on the unionists when surely
there is a need for all of us to be thinking creatively for the future greater good of
all the inhabitants of the British Isles?
I was disappointed
that time, or perhaps priority, didn’t allow for discussion on the possible
realignment of the British Isles along federal
lines. I was also a bit disappointed
that there was not more debate on the significance, for a potential independent
Scotland, of the inevitable
debate on the European Union that will very soon engulf the United Kingdom.
If I had had the
opportunity I would have asked Dr Rosie to confirm that many Scottish
Nationalists are big supporters of the EU. I would then have asked if that was
being seen by some as selling the soul of Scotland: as setting up the thran independently-minded
Scots to be subservient to the power-mongering of the Eurocrats; as
further enabling that rapidly expanding empire for the benefit of super-rich
absentee land-lairds?
Given the chance, I would also have pointed out that while I
agree that a NO vote in September
would not be the end: I think for balance his presentation should have pointed
out that a narrow YES vote would not
be the end either.
I do not live in Scotland but it is just over on the other side
of the sheugh and the people of Ulster
and Scotland
have historically been seen as virtually the same people. I seem to have a different understanding of these people from an academia and media that appears
to not fully grasp what the common
folk, the people most effected by the manoeuvrings of the ruling
classes, think and feel emotionally.
This presentation was quite typical of the usual message
sent out by the Scottish media that the debate is all very civilised, mature
and respectful: in relative terms, say for instance to how we might debate
things in Northern Ireland.
In actual fact, so far, that is true and the people of Scotland need to be
commended for it. But, Scottish academics and the media seem to be in a state
of denial of the hurt that will be caused to many should there be a narrow vote
for independence.
It is most unlikely that there would be any widespread violent reaction but the passionate opposition to
the “divorce”, as Dr Rosie quite aptly put it, would result in much social
turmoil and obstruction to the new regime in Scotland. This would not only be
from within Scotland but
from the working class remaining in the rest of the UK who have emotional attachment to
remaining in solidarity with each other. There can be no doubt that there is
currently a common bond among the working class: an understanding that the
current establishment has failed them and that there needs to be a
transformation of government. Should the Scots abandon ship the rest of the
working crew will not be too pleased.
It is all very well to say that the mature people of the UK will be able to handle the divorce with
dignity: agreeing to share the debts and divide up the profits. In reality it
would be a disturbing long drawn-out painful process. Government accounting is
abysmal: the books are cooked to maintain the trough for whoever is in charge.
The supposed ‘independence’ of government auditors is misleading to say the least. This apparently extends to governance of the
EU as well. It wouldn’t be so bad if the divorcees were all in mutual agreement
and both sought a clean efficient process to facilitate the finding of new partners/new lovers.
I could imagine
that a truly independent Scotland:
independent of London and Brussels
that had the confidence and support of a clear majority of Scots and the
remainder of the UK;
could develop a sound sustainable economic future. It is most unlikely that there could ever be that level of enthusiastic support: nor indeed that lack of opposition.
It is certainly legitimate for independence seekers to
highlight the lack of innovative
alternatives being presented by unionist politicians but equally it is
disturbing that the want-to-be divorcees think it will all be harmonious and
wonderful: with Scotland and the Republic
of Ireland being controlled from Brussels while the rest of the UK
seeks more independence from Brussels.
No, while I very much enjoyed Dr Rosie’s excellent delivery
I left feeling a greater sense of urgency for the common folk of the British
Isles, including those in the Republic of Ireland: an urgent need to get
together to analyse what road those who
jockey for power and control of government
are trying to send us down. We have to ask ourselves what do they hope to gain from an obviously divided Scotland
and a divided UK: or indeed, to gain from maintaining the status quo?
On the bright side, perhaps it's not too late to have more far-reaching debates on the future alternatives for all the people of the British Isles.
On the bright side, perhaps it's not too late to have more far-reaching debates on the future alternatives for all the people of the British Isles.
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